I am person who that has been living in China for 13 years and understand the problems that students have in learning Mandarin. I have been working with a Mandarin school and we have created a full Mandarin program consisting of a Grammar Text (324 pages), a Workbook (283 pages) and accompanying MP3 voice files for all the dialogs in the Workbook. It is free to download and use in schools. I think the program could be taught as a two year program. By the end of the program, students will have the ability to learn Mandarin without using English. We want to create a website for everyone to use to collaborate on useful Mandarin education. Have a look at our Wiki-projects page and see what you think. www.chineseocw.com